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Genealogy of the French in North America
Quebec Royal Descends (QRD30)
This table is a list of immigrants having a king among their
ancestors. The list is limited to people coming from France and
who spent at least one winter in North America, or to people who moved
(for at least one year) to one of the former French colonies on the
North American continent. So, the list is not limited to the
province of Quebec but to the diocese of Quebec as defined in the
1700s. Also, if a Royal
Descend immigrant came with his/her children or sibling, they
are included in the list.
Group with accepted lines with or without North
American descendants (proven or looking like correct until proven wrong)
Background colors mean:
- Green: I have descendants after 1900 in my database or I
know descendants or I know that descendants exist
- Blue: otherwise
- White: more documents about one line
Note:
while I tried to link all immigrants to their family page, not all
lines are found there. Moreover, in many cases, it
is not easy to find the shorter line to royalty. I will try to
improve this in a later release. I tried to link each immigrant
to his/her family sheet except when he/she was married many times or
after the database threshold (link to the the parents); the links were
added manually.
| Immigrant |
1st spouse (and other spouses with children) | Descendants |
Royal Connection | Main reference, state of the art | |
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Main reference, state of the art, credits |
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1 |
MADOKAWANDO, Mathilde (a native woman) |
3/28/59/4/1* |
To be tested |
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2 |
MARTIN de LINO, Geneviève Françoise |
0/2/0/0/0 Back to France or in West Indies? |
Fully documented |
DGO, vol. 1 |
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3 |
MIVILLE, Marie |
15/2042 |
See Convent, Anne |
Not yet published |
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4 |
MIVILLE dit DESCHÊNES, Jacques |
4/627/ |
Fully documented |
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5 |
AMIOT, Jean Baptiste |
0/2/0/0/0 |
Fully documented (line based on that of Catherine de Baillon) |
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6 |
FORTIER, Thérèse |
0/3/5/5/0 |
Fully documented (line based on that of Catherine de Baillon) |
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7 |
MORIN, Jean Baptiste |
4/2/0/0/0 |
Looks like correct |
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8 |
AMIOT, Philippe |
18/2054/ |
Antoinette Longueval is not the daughter of
Jean-Antoine de LONGUEVAL, chevalier d'Haraucourt, and Anne de
MARIDOR. |
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MSGCF, vol. 58, no. 1, p. 17-58, Les origines de
Philippe Amiot (Hameau), de son épouse Anne Couvent et de leur
neveu Toussaint Ledran, by Roland-Yves Gagné and Laurent
Kokanosky
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9 |
LAMY, Marie |
0/22/2/0/0 |
Fully documented |
MSGCF, vol. 52, no. 2, p. 95 |
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MSGCF, vol. 52, no. 2, p. 95, L'ascendance de Michel d'Aigneaux d'Ouville, by Roland-Yves Gagné, Paul Leportier |
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10 |
LE GARDEUR, Catherine |
5/69/5/0/0 |
Controversy (see Menteith at the bottom) |
MSGCF, vol. 51, no. 1, p. 71-85 |
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MSGCF, vol. 51, no. 1, p. 71-85, Qui était
Jehan de Monteth, écuyer, seigneur d’Argentenay,
ancêtre des d’Ailleboust ? (Roland-Yves Gagné) |
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11 |
BOULLOUGNE (de), Barbe |
0/0/0/0/0 |
Controversy (see Menteith) |
See Charles D'AILLEBOUST |
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12 |
CHARTIER, Louis Théandre |
3/87/31/9/0 |
To be tested |
MSGCF, vol. 32, no. 2, p. 95 |
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MSGCF, vol. 32, no. 2, p. 95, Y-a-t-il des personnages historiques parmi nos ancêtres?, by Aimé Trottier |
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13 |
MARSOLAIS, Marie |
9/89/22/11/1 |
To be tested |
MSGCF, vol. 32, no. 2, p. 95 (see Élisabeth D'AMOUR) |
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14 |
NAFRECHOU, Marguerite |
0/0/0/0/0 |
Looks like correct |
DGO, vol. 1, p. 41 |
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DGO,
vol. 1, p. 41, from works by Jean-Marie Germe, more particularly AGCF,
no. 1, 1995, p. 36. |
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15 |
COUAGNE, Marguerite de |
0/3/0/0/0 |
Looks like correct |
DGO, vol. 1, p. 41 (see François de Gannes) |
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16 |
DENIS, Barbe; LEGARDEUR, Louise; LENEUF, Marguerite |
2/21/6/1/0 |
Looks like correct |
DGO, vol. 1, p. 41 (see François de Gannes) |
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17 |
TARDIF, Anne |
0/146/55/30/0* |
Looks like correct, reliable searcher |
Internet Message |
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Message De Meherenc de Montmirel royal gateway- new, posted to the newsgroup news:soc.genealogy.medieval, par Jean Bunot, Date: 26 Jan 2004 08:46:40 -0800 This follows a search published in The Genealogist (6) 37-39, by Vivian Santerre then DGO, vol. 1, continued by an article in MSGCF, vol. 52, no 2, De Dumont à Bouchard de Méhérenc!, by Alain Contant |
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18 |
WABERT, Marie Élisabeth; TOUPIN, Madeleine; CARON, Marie Anne |
0/17/9/1/0 |
Controversy (Lewkenor problem) |
Some Web sites, RD600 |
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19 |
MENACIER, Louise |
2/352/ |
See CONVENT, Anne, his aunt. |
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20 |
(unmarried) |
No |
Probable |
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21 |
LE NEUF, Mathieu |
46/1568/
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Fully documented |
MSGCF, vol. 51, no. 3, p. 209-226 |
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MSGCF, vol. 51, no. 3, p. 209-226, Les Le Neuf : état des connaissances, by René Jetté, Roland-Yves Gagné, John Patrick DuLong, Paul Leportier |
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22 |
DESROSIERS, Antoine |
10/1083/ |
Fully documented |
MSGCF, vol. 51, no. 3, p. 209-226 (see Jeanne LE MARCHAND) |
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23 |
LE GARDEUR, Marguerite |
20/164/20/1/0 |
Fully documented |
MSGCF, vol. 51, no. 3, p. 209-226 (see Jeanne LE MARCHAND) |
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24 |
GODEFROY, Jean |
11/321/ |
Fully documented |
MSGCF, vol. 51, no. 3, p. 209-226 (see Jeanne LE MARCHAND) |
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25 |
ROBINEAU, René |
3/29/7/0/0 |
Fully documented |
MSGCF, vol. 51, no. 3, p. 209-226 (see Jeanne LE MARCHAND) |
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26 |
Unknown (likely a child born out of wedlock) |
11/1083/ |
Fully documented |
MSGCF, vol. 51, no. 3, p. 209-226 (see Jeanne LE MARCHAND) |
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27 |
(never married) |
Non |
Fully documented |
MSGCF, vol. 51, no. 3, p. 209-226 (see Jeanne LE MARCHAND) |
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28 |
(never married) |
Non |
Fully documented |
MSGCF, vol. 51, no. 3, p. 209-226 (see Jeanne LE MARCHAND) |
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29 |
TROTTIER, Marguerite JARRET, Catherine-Gabrielle |
0/8/0/0/0* |
To be tested |
Traité de généalogie, by René Jetté |
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30 |
FÉVRIER, Christophe |
1/140/ |
Controversy (see Menteith) |
MSGCF, vol. 51, p. 71-85 (see Charles D'AILLEBOUST) |
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31 |
LE CREUX, Nicolas |
2/0/0/0/0 |
To be tested |
See Jeanne MOTIN |
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32 |
MOTIN, Claude |
(never married) |
Non |
To be tested |
See Jeanne MOTIN |
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33 |
MOTIN, Jean |
(priest) |
Non |
To be tested |
See Jeanne MOTIN |
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34 |
MENOU (de), Charles SAINT-ÉTIENNE de LA TOUR (de), Charles Amador de |
7/219/107/32/1 |
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Not yet published |
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Genealogy based on unpublished works by René Jetté (using Histoire de Bresse et du Bugey) completed by my personal works |
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35 |
POITEVIN, Jean |
0/42/19/15/0* |
Controversy (Lewkenor problem) |
Some Web sites, RD600 |
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36 |
MARIÉ dit DUFRESNE, Marie |
0/0/1/0/0 |
To be tested |
Not yet published |
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37 |
DUPLESSIS, Marie Josèphe or Marie MALLET, Marie Louise |
0/0/0/0/0 |
To be tested |
Not yet published |
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38 |
D'ABANCOURT, Marie |
In France ? |
Probably (the searcher is reliable) |
Pierre Bétourné |
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39 |
JOYBERT, Louise Élisabeth de |
0/6/0/0/0, then back to France |
Fully documented |
DGO, t. 1 |
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40 |
A native woman, MOTIN, Jeanne and JACQUELIN, Françoise Marie |
13/247/ |
Considered as safe (the link to the Salazar is documented and those Salazar have known high nobility) |
Traité de généalogie, by René Jetté |
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41 |
RATÉ, Geneviève |
0/187/257/485 |
To be tested |
Web sites |
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Many
sites have published a part of that genealogy. The problem is
that most of them have no source or have another site as the
source. Moreover, one site that examined many other sources had a
lot of chronological errors. |
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No |
Fully documented |
See de GANNES which are cousin. |
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The rejected cases (not enough documented, can't be proven, not yet proven/published or looking like fictive)
| Immigrant |
1st spouse (and other spouses with children) | Descendants |
Comment |
Main reference, state of the art |
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JOSSARD, Élisabeth |
1/125/44/11/0* |
Royal ancestry through Catherine de Vualpergue or Walpergue according to Janko Pavsic. Never published. |
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LAMARCHE, Catherine Marguerite de |
2/227/ |
While
the De Billy families in Quebec are
probably descending from one of the noble De Billy families and the
line from them to a king is documented in Père Anselme, the
links to the parents of Jean-François is not proven. The
demonstration of René Jetté in his traité can be
considered as meaningful as it says something like (p. 591) "...if the
migrant Jean François de Billy is actually the son of
François de Billy, seigneur de Baricourt: "... si
l'immigrant français Jean François de
Billy était bien fils de François de Billy, seigneur de
Baricourt...". |
TG 585-592 |
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CARAFFE, Jean-Baptiste de |
DU TREMBLE, Marie-Louise |
0/0/0/0/0* |
The migrant told to his children he was the natural son of Louis XV, then one child repeated that to a priest and this later to the author of the BRH article. Can't be proven without DNA testing |
BRH, vol. 30, p. 220ss |
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VERDON, Jeanne LESIÈGE, Marie Lousie |
2/274/
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Controversy, no reliable documentation |
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LEFRANÇOIS, Françoise |
5/237/ |
Erronous (confusion with another person having the same name as his father) |
DGO, t. 1 |
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DANGEAC, Marguerite |
0/6/0/0 (2 in France) |
Likely if he is the son of the prince of Montbéliard, but his marriage record doesn't say that. |
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FUSEAU dit ROCH, Françoise |
0/4/6/6/0* |
A searcher pretends Ernst is the same as Philipp
II Ernst Lippe, a German prince. The problem is this claim is
based on
a secret document. Moreover, the signatures of the immigrant and
the prince are different. |
MSGCF, vol. 25, p. 228-244 and vol. 59, p. 30
(signatures) |
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ROGNON, Marguerite |
0/105/37/10/0 |
The proof is not strong enough to show that Gilles de Sévigné, married to Gillette de Foy, is also the husband of Marie de Keraldanet . |
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From Les Bretons en Amérique française 1504-2004, by Marcel Fournier, then follow the Montmorency line. Search by Célestin Denis. |
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Notes :
- The column descendants has usually 5 values. They are the number of marriages of descendants (excluding the migrant) in my database. The 5 values covers years1600-1699, 1700-1799, 1800-1899, 1900-1999 and 2000 or more.
- Statistics about the content of my marriages database on a separate document.
- * means I know one descendant.. In some cases, that line is not in my database.
- The quality of the royal line is described as follows:
- Fully documented: documentation based on original records.
- Looks like correct, considered as safe: documentation based on reliable secondary sources (like d'Hozier and Père Anselme).
- To be tested: a part of documentation is from less reliable sources.
- Likely: descendance of a known family with royal descent, but the exact line is to be found.
- Controversy: some searchers may reject that line for the said reason.
- Some figures decreased between 2004 and 2005. It
seems I made a mistake when counting them in 2004.
Source
Billy: Message posted a newsgroup:Author: Jean Bunot
Newsgroup news:soc.genealogy.medieval
Subject: De Billy royal gateway- NEW
Date: 20 Jan 2004 10:36:36 -0800
Controversies :
Menteith: the line is based on the marriage contract of
Jehan
de Monteth with Suzanne Hotman, dated 18-07-1594 and signed in Paris
at the office of the notary Hugues Babynet. This acte is
reproduced in MSGCF,
vol. 51, no 1, p. 73 and we can read: "Furent presens ... Jehan de
Monteth ... de la maison des Comtes de monteth & Baron de Carsa ...
assisté de Jehan de gordon ... son cousin remué de
germain a cause de
leurs grandes mères filles de Comte de montrosse en escosse".
That is: "Where present ... Jehan de
Monteth ... from the House of Earls of monteth & Baron of Carsa ...
assisted by Jehan de gordon ... his second-degree cousin by their
grand-mothers daughter of the Earl of Montrose in Scotland".
On one end, both possible Earl of Montrose are the father and the son
and both descend from Henry 1st,
king of England. But, no document identifies the
grand-mothers. However, John Gordon is identified (he is the son
of Alexander Gordon de Huntley, bishop of Galloway, and of Barbara
Logie) and nothing links him to the daughter of a Montrose as indicated
in
the contract. So, there is a mistake in that act and it concerns
the lineage of Jehan Gordon to the Earl of Montrose. Since it is
in part the same lineage that is used by Jehan de
Monteth, I can't see why, if the line that would be provable (by John
Gordon) is wrong, the line that is not provable (by John Menteith)
would not be wrong too.
Roland-Yves
Gagné believes the royal connection by the Montrose is right
anyway (based on an authentic act) and that René Jetté
accepted his proof. Roland-Yves is the author of the
reference article: Roland-Yves Gagné, « Qui était
Jehan de
Monteth, écuyer, seigneur d’Argentenay, ancêtre des
d’Ailleboust? »,
MSGCF, vol. 51, no. 1, p. 71-85.
I believe there is an error in that authentic act and it can't be
trusted to conclude that Jehan de Monteth descend from an Earl of
Montrose. However, he should descend from the first Menteith to
own
the baronny of Kerse, that is John Menteith, sheriff of
Clackmannan in 1352, married to Marjorie Stirling, heir of that
baronny. Among the simple mistakes that would match the
contract with the known facts, there are the word "filles du comte
de Montrose" ("daughter of the Earl of " in French) that could be "filleules"
("goddaughter" in French), since Margaret Stuart, a grand-mother of
John Gordon, was the niece of the 1st Earl of Montrose.
Lewkenor: while the Lewkenor line is considered as proven
by
some sources, a search on the Internet will show many possible Roger
Lewkenor in a short time. So, this part of the line should be
studied closely.
Genealogy of the French in North America
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